Ic piano tuner

Sweeping graph in IC Piano Tuner, I have not found any other software capable of providing such a key feature, even IC Piano Tuner has been released over five years.As to the trichord tuning, I guess you mean tuning by pitch, which is the basic task for every piano tuning software including IC Piano Tuner (among one of its functions). And I don't think any software can do better than others with pitch tuning of unison. The task is merely a Fourier transform of the sound wave and picking the harmonics (the partials) out. The accuracy is governed by the duration of the sound wave. If you happened to get a poor resolution of the pitch, it is likely you chose a time duration (selectable in IC Piano Tuner) which is too short. Three seconds is better than one second, for example. But longer time means slower tuning process. So it is a trade-off.Further a disadvantage of tuning based on pitch is that one doesn't know how close two strings' pitches should be (here we are not talking about experience, rather, just in principle) until checking the beating between them. Although it is less a problem in lower keys, it is getting harder for keys at the high end.BillJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13Junior MemberJunior MemberJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13IC Piano Tuner: Beating between F3 and A3 stringswww.youtube.com/embed/BACt71n9PVoJoined: Nov 2008Posts: 6,4276000 Post Club Member6000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2008Posts: 6,427Thanks for posting the video! You have obviously done a lot of hard work

IC Piano Tuner, I have not found any other software capable of providing such a key feature, even IC Piano Tuner has been released over five years.As to the trichord tuning, I guess you mean tuning by pitch, which is the basic task for every piano tuning software including IC Piano Tuner (among one of its functions). And I don't think any software can do better than others with pitch tuning of unison. The task is merely a Fourier transform of the sound wave and picking the harmonics (the partials) out. The accuracy is governed by the duration of the sound wave. If you happened to get a poor resolution of the pitch, it is likely you chose a time duration (selectable in IC Piano Tuner) which is too short. Three seconds is better than one second, for example. But longer time means slower tuning process. So it is a trade-off.Further a disadvantage of tuning based on pitch is that one doesn't know how close two strings' pitches should be (here we are not talking about experience, rather, just in principle) until checking the beating between them. Although it is less a problem in lower keys, it is getting harder for keys at the high end.BillJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13Junior MemberJunior MemberJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13IC Piano Tuner: Beating between F3 and A3 stringswww.youtube.com/embed/BACt71n9PVoJoined: Nov 2008Posts: 6,4276000 Post Club Member6000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2008Posts: 6,427Thanks for posting the video! You have obviously done a lot of hard work on this application.

Again how fast you tune the piano depends mainly on the sensitivity of your hammer tuning skill, whether using IC Piano Tuner or aural tuning.BillLast edited by Bill-ICPT; 03/24/19 09:03 AM.Joined: Oct 2004Posts: 1,4311000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Oct 2004Posts: 1,431I can see how this product might be useful to someone just learning to hear beats, but beyond that, it doesn't seem very useful. In the video the unison tuning using this software is close to perfect but not quite there to my ear. But then I don't like even a tiny bit of twang in my unisons. Frankly, learning to use the tuning hammer/wrench to make these sorts of minute adjustments is perhaps a bigger challenge for the beginning tuner. And that is truly just the beginning of learning to tune aurally.Joined: Nov 2017Posts: 13Junior MemberJunior MemberJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13Aaron,You caught it! A perfect tuning in this case would be like an exponentially decaying curve. The curve in the video is slightly off from that if you examine the tail closely. As an introduction video, a perfect tuning is not the focus, as a beginner has too many things to worry about. An experienced tuner can easily hit the dead sound for the unison aurally. IC Piano Tuner helps a beginner connect the visual curve and the sound, facilitating the training of the ear.Beyond the tuning of the unison, IC Piano Tuner offers other functions such as stretch tuning from C4 to B4 key-by-key, which are useful for beginners as well as more advanced tuners. And the beating function does not stop at unisons, it also applies to, e.g., perfect 4th and 5th. With IC Piano Tuner, an experienced tuner does not need a clock to count the beat, since the beating is shown on the sweeping graph in real time with more accurate result than the counting with a clock. It is expected a microphone is more sensitive than the ear. If you can hear, it can hear too. If it can hear, you can see in the sweeping graph. BillJoined: Nov 2007Posts: 1,2391000 Post Club

MemberOP1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2007Posts: 1,239I can't imagine that this program (which I own) was designed for professional tuners. FYI, the Youtube demo says nothing about the main purpose of the program, which is to provide a rough and ready measurement of beats per sec for various intervals in the temperament. Professional tuners do this almost instinctively, as many posters have already pointed out! So the program is of no use to professional piano tuners.As for tuning trichords, any free tuning software will do THAT much more easily and accurately than this program.Ergo: the program is fun for NON-tuners (like me) who want a sense of what beat rates sound like as you move up the temperament. It won't "teach" you anything, however. I used it a couple of times to determine whether Verituner had produced a relatively even progression of beat rates on my own piano. You can do the same thing with Audacity and a microphone, but it's very time-consuming.Joined: Nov 2017Posts: 13Junior MemberJunior MemberJoined: Nov 2017Posts: 13John,Again the video is an introduction for unison tuning, not intended to cover everything in the program (which will be covered by separate videos). And the program provides a lot of function. Different people use it for different purposes. There is no single goal. If you want the detail of the program, you should go to the product website to download a manual, which is free.As you said, you are not a professional tuner, it would be better to leave the opinions from professional tuners to those who are. I can see Verituner is your favorite, I hope you continue to enjoy your tuning. I noticed you have an earlier version of IC Piano Tuner. The current version is v.5.0.1. As to the unique feature of beating sweeping graph in IC Piano Tuner, I have not found any other software capable of providing such a key feature, even IC Piano Tuner has been released over five years.As to the trichord tuning, I guess you mean tuning by pitch, which is the basic task for every piano tuning software including IC

Tuning in this case would be like an exponentially decaying curve. The curve in the video is slightly off from that if you examine the tail closely. As an introduction video, a perfect tuning is not the focus, as a beginner has too many things to worry about. An experienced tuner can easily hit the dead sound for the unison aurally. IC Piano Tuner helps a beginner connect the visual curve and the sound, facilitating the training of the ear.Beyond the tuning of the unison, IC Piano Tuner offers other functions such as stretch tuning from C4 to B4 key-by-key, which are useful for beginners as well as more advanced tuners. And the beating function does not stop at unisons, it also applies to, e.g., perfect 4th and 5th. With IC Piano Tuner, an experienced tuner does not need a clock to count the beat, since the beating is shown on the sweeping graph in real time with more accurate result than the counting with a clock. It is expected a microphone is more sensitive than the ear. If you can hear, it can hear too. If it can hear, you can see in the sweeping graph. BillJoined: Nov 2007Posts: 1,2391000 Post Club MemberOP1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2007Posts: 1,239I can't imagine that this program (which I own) was designed for professional tuners. FYI, the Youtube demo says nothing about the main purpose of the program, which is to provide a rough and ready measurement of beats per sec for